HORI Ace Combat 7 Hotas Flight Stick for Xbox One - Officially Licensed by Microsoft & Bandai Namco Entertainment - Xbox One

These are very well made and better than the xbox 360 versions or the thrustmasters. Those who say otherwise just suck at using flight sticks and dont understand why there is a deadzone which is adjustable on this stick. Best flight stick and throttle combo ive ever used!

TL;DR: I returned this. Trust me - buy the "Thrustmaster T-Flight Hotas One" instead of this. It's less than half the price, and is much better made and works far better as well! You can read my review of it as well on that item.I had very high hopes for these - I preordered them and Ace Combat 7. I was a fan of AC:6 on the Xbox 360, and I had bought the Hori Ace Edge flight sticks for that game as well. The Ace Edge HOTAS for the Xbox 360 was a quality item and they worked very well - which makes sense, because as I understand it, they were basically just a retooled version of the Saitek X-45 HOTAS, which too, was a quality item. I thought if they were anywhere near as good, why wouldn't I buy these at $200 - and support the small niche community that has been begging for a HOTAS on the Xbox One since it came out (and flight games to use with it.). So I'll be comparing these heavily to the old ones.I am incredibly disappointed with these new Hori HOTAS. I am fairly certain that Saitek was in no way involved with the design or manufacture of them unlike the old ones. In fact, I'm fairly certain that they simply made a mold of the old throttle to get the overall shape the same - and them made the electronics in house, using the absolute cheapest and awful components they could source; in order to save the maximum amount of money possible and milk as much money as possible from those us of excited to see their return and pre-order them. Jokes on them because I've returned them, and bought the Thrustmaster HOTAS instead, which are far better quality and less than half the price.First - the deal breaker - the joystick has an incredible amount of slop / play around the center - easily 5 degrees in all directions before any tension occurs. It feels broken and wobbly, right out of the box. On top of this, there is a tremendous "dead zone" in the center of the stick, where your control inputs do nothing, making precision impossible. Yes, there is a "sensitivity" adjustment, and yes, the dead zone is a bit better at the extreme of the adjustment, however, this means you have to move the stick all the way to the edge of travel, in order to register movement, which is also inaccurate, tiring, and just not realistic feeling at all. The throw of the joystick is long as well, which means your joystick is all over the place while you fly. It is just simply not usable - you're better off using your normal xbox controller over these. And that's the deal breaker and the main reason I returned them - that constant feeling of - I'd be doing better if I just used a controller instead. The old 360 HOTAS had almost no slop and felt very tight, and had very little deadzone. They were better than using a controller, as a true HOTAS should beThere is no "middle detent" for 50% throttle (the Thrustmaster has this!). Even the 360 version at least had an "afterburner detent". Gone is the rubberized coating of the 360 version, replaced instead with a cheap feeling, smooth / slippery plastic finish (yes there is some texturing in spots but not nearly enough). No more rubber pad on the base of the throttle either. Gone too is the weighted bases of the 360 version, with their nice aluminum covers. They even put fake plastic allen screws on the tops of the new ones to try an make them look more like the old metal ones! The new sticks are all plastic, and the bases have suction cups which you must use due to how light they are. For some reason they kept the fake knobs and buttons on the throttle that the 360 sticks had! The standard 15 pin joystick connector for the throttle has been replaced with a RJ-12 connector (6 pin telephone connector) - far less durable (and cheaper).The dpad on the joystick rattles around and is imprecise. In fact all of the buttons feel cheap and rattly and microswitches, not spring loaded or silicone sprung like a gamepad button would be. The labeling on the buttons is small and hard to see. The xbox guide button is very bright - obnoxious when playing in a dark room. There is a decent mini thumbstick on the joystick, but ace combat doesn't use it as a HAT switch for looking around, making it basically useless. The joystick does NOT twist for rudder (the Thrustmaster version does!) - which makes you rely on the rudder rocker on the throttle, which is often awkward to use as it's in a weird spot for your fingers(the 360 one was this way too - they kept the worst features of the 360 version!).All in all, these joysticks feel like they are worth maybe $50 at best and only for games requiring no precision at all. Like a kids first flight stick. I get this is a game console not a computer, but we still expect accurate controls! This is inexcusably bad.Look past these. Don't even buy them used, they'll just frustrate you. Go buy the Thrustmaster version instead and be much happier!

HORI might not have enough experience with HOTAS setups, unfortunately. Putting aside the strange decisions like a lack of stick-twist for the rudder control (also true on the PS4 version) and the lack of rumble feedback on the Xbox One version, the stick works--though not particularly well considering a $200 price point. On top of that, PC compatibility via USB is incredibly hit or miss, so if you were hoping to use this as a legacy USB HOTAS (for games that don't support multiple input devices), it might be doable, if you you luck out and are prepared to painstakingly program the controls. The fact that this costs a comparable amount to a low-to-mid grade PC HOTAS, while being substantially less capable, is really not a great endorsement.On the bright side, Port 213 honored my refund (after some delay), so I'm happier with the seller than the product itself.

First off for all the people talking about the huge dead zone there is a way to fix it.. o the front of the stick you will see a toggle switch next to the head phone jack make sure it is set to normal or narrow if it is on wide(mine was when i opened it) you will have to move the stick almost all the way be for your plane moves.. lit took me a while to find this out because Hori really has on owners manual for it.. people are right the one for xbox 360 seems to he made with more creativity and pride in the overall fell and look to them.. if you are a huge dog fighting fan like i am then these stick are a must i hope a helped some of you guys with the dead zone issues

Good for laid back play on elite dangerous. Trading and passenger missions. Does not have a twist action in the joystick. This limits combat effectiveness and maneuverability. Build quality is average. Weak plastic. Suction cups are also not that good. Needs a very smooth surface to adhere to. Tempered glass or something. Also, a lot of buttons on the throttle are dummy buttons. They do not have a use nor can you program them. The throttle HAT and the joystick HAT are the same. So there’s really not that many buttons at your disposal.

I like the it's a great stick to use just wish it had feedback on The stick

There's nothing to like... its cheaply built ... it has "aesthetic" buttons which are just that... aesthetic ... they aren't programmable and don't actuate ... the controls aren't programmable I went into game options and tried to reprogram the throttle on ED to work, well at all and zero luck... the throttle deploys and fires hardpoints all with the same action ... the cord that you connect the throttle with is trash and disconnects at random with no warning... i couldn't confirm any dead zone however because of it not working as a throttle ... the stick did feel comfortable though I have large hands and am used to a hotas sonim not sure if that's relevant... the buttons were very spongy and not at all responsive enough however I continously had to repress buttons to get an ingame response ... this is the WORST lump of trash I've ever purchased ... RETURNED within 5 minutes of inbox unboxing...If your looking for a great experience and have a pc or a laptop and if you have the cash I recommend buying x52 rhino and a dongle... you program with pc while dingle is inserted and presto ... perfection...If your a tad lacking on funds but you just gotta have that hotas experience I highly recommend the thrustmaster tflight for Xbox 1 there are 2 models and both are excellent despite being made of plastic they are built for function and last well over a year ... i have had mine for 2 years now and I love it

enjoy game

Pésimo desempeño, no sirve, tiene un death zone grandisimo no se puede calibrar

Excellente manette

Hace un mapeo de los botones al mando de la xbox, con lo que tiene un buen puñado de ellos que son inasignables, y ademas el control de potencia de los motores funciona como un digital, pulsado o no pulsado, y no tiene guiñada en el joystick principal. un trasto muy grande para simplemente sustituir al mando de la xbox.

Diese "Hotas-Combo" aus dem Hause "Hori" ist wohl das enttäuschendste Produkt was ich je gekauft habe. Ich habe mir im Vorfeld natürlich eine Menge Rezessionen durchgelesen und auch etliche Videos zu diesem Thema angeschaut, bevor ich die Finale Bestellung getätigt habe. Bis auf: der Joystick selber hat keine eigene Z-Achse und die Deadzone ist etwas groß ausgefallen, konnte ich nichts negatives ausmachen. Auch die unverbindliche Preisempfehlung von 199,00€ hat mich sehr positiv gestimmt. Ich erwartete zwar keine "Logitec/Saitec-Qualität", diese Joysticks liegen auch in der Preislage, aber für 199,00€ könnte man doch einiges erwarten, dachte ich. Leider war die Enttäuschung riesig.Haptik:Ausgepackt machte der Umkarton eine gute Figur. Das ließ auf etwas hoffen. Als ich dann aber das Produkt selbst in den Händen hielt, konnte ich es nicht glauben. Der Elite Controller der Xbox One weißt das gleiche Gewicht wie beide Peripheriegeräte, Joystick und Schubregler, zusammen auf. Das ist wirklich das billigste Stück Plastik das ich je für diesen Preis in den Händen hielt. Alles fühlt sich irgendwie hohl an. Als würde keine Masse dahinter stehen. Selbst dem Druckknöpfen fehlt ein gewisser Widerstand, ein richtiges Druckgefühl sozusagen. Die Qualität kann man wohl mit einer Plastik-Spritzpistole von der Losbude auf dem Jahrmarkt vergleichen. KEINE ÜBERTREIBUNG. Dazu kommt außerdem, dass die Drehregler an der Schubkontrolle rein dekorativ angebracht wurden. Dazu gesellen sich dann noch zwei Knöpfe die eigentlich zum Verschieben sind, welche aber ebenfalls als Dekoration herhalten müssen. Auch das ist kein Scherz. So steht es tatsächlich auch in der Anleitung.Bedienung:Ich dachte mir aber: gut, Saugknöpfe sind dabei, probiere ihn aus, vielleicht liegen die Stärken des Gerätes woanders. Aber weit gefehlt. Auch hier konnte der Joystick nicht überzeugen. Dieser bewegt sich sehr träge, was ich eigentlich begrüße, aber dabei kommt es zu kratzenden, quietschenden, gar knackenden Geräuschen. Da wäre die Wahl, hochwertigere Materialien zu verbauen, deutlich besser gewesen. Selbst die großen Schrauben auf dem Fundament des Joysticks sind aus Kunststoff. Was ich positiv anmerken muss: der Schubregler lässt sich in Trägheit/Widerstand durch eine Stellschraube anpassen. Was weiterhin Negativ zu bewerten ist, stellt man den Joystick auf "Simulation", so werden hiermit nochmal ein Steuerkreuz außer Betrieb gesetzt. Somit fehlen dann nochmals 4 mögliche Bedienknöpfe.Fazit:Dieses Stück Plastikschrott hat auf keinen Fall einen Wert von 199,00€ UVP. Gut, ich habe das Gerät hier auf Amazon für 63,51€ bekommen. Nur deshalb habe ich es bestellt. Aber auch hier reicht die Qualität meiner Meinung nach nicht aus. Für den Spass an der Freude würde ich vielleicht 20,00€ ausgeben und damit würde die Firma "Hori" wahrscheinlich immer noch 100% Gewinn machen. Und aus diesem Grund gibt von mir auch ein 100%iges Abraten vom Kauf. FINGER WEG. In meinen Augen werden hier Nutzer von Konsolen ausgenutzt, da hier das Spektrum von angebotenen Joysticks sehr mager ausfällt und nur zwei Produkte, einmal dieses und ein zweites von Thrustmaster, zur Auswahl stehen. Eigentlich ist dieses Produkt nicht mal einen Stern wert.

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